Question:
Is there a way to report someone who is only gaining the weight

only for Bariatric Surgery? It distresses me that a member is doing exactly that.    — SHANGFORD (posted on March 9, 2006)


March 9, 2006
personally speaking it is NOT your business what other people do. Yes, there are people that gain weight however they are having the surgery for the wrong reasons and they will fail. I suggest that you concentrate on your own journey and let the other fail on there own.
   — Steve Cohen

March 9, 2006
I feel sorry for that person, not only are they hurting their health but gaining weight, they are willing to undergo a very serious- life changing surgery to lose weight, how much do they have to gain to have the surgery? Are they aware of the risks, I don't think I would personally take them if I only had under 100 lbs to lose, but I really can't judge for someone else, If you know them, I would try to educate them on the risks of the surgery. And most insurance companies require a Dr.s supervised weight loss attempts, as well as it being medically necessary,and 5 years of being morbidly obese so I don't think they will have a easy time. Just my 2 cents. I don't think we should be able to report anyone, because this sight is where people come to feel safe with others who hopefully understand or will try to understand how they feel. If this person wants some advise on the question of whether to gain weight for the surgery has been asked in previous Q&A and some good advice is in there. Ask yourself if it was you or me how would I want someone to help me? LOL Jen
   — jlflbf

March 9, 2006
I wouldn't encourage one to do this, but I do understand the desparation to have surgery. There have been posts in the past where people have used various ways to add weight -like rolls of quarters in pockets, etc. And, in fact, when I wrote my husband's appeal letter when he had a BMI of 38.2, explaining his various reasons for needing surgery, I added the statement that it would seem a shame to have to gain more weight in order to qualify for surgery, making the risks greater, recovery more difficult, etc. Obviously this person is doing this for reasons we don't know, but I certainly don't think it's anyone's place to "report" them. They could easily say they have "food and emotional issues" and are gianing weight as a result of being denied surgery.
   — koogy

March 9, 2006
I hate to admit it, lol, but I'm with the others. I would'nt report this ether. It's not like someone selling drugs or otherwish hurting someone else. I hope this person is'nt gaining alot of weight on purpose. I hope no more than 10 lbs. I feel WLS should only be a "last resort". It is an awesome thing to go through, and live with. At least in my opinion. However sometimes we do what we think we have too. Sometimes the choices could be hard to live with. Anyway, I hope you reconsider. I would'nt tattle. This person may pay dearly in the end anyway. :)
   — Danmark

March 9, 2006
I have 2 sons. Both of them are about 80# over wt. Their father had his first heart attack at age 39 and died from another at 49. He also was onnly about 80-90# over. Would I try to stop them from living the rest of their now shortened lives (2 morbid parents) on a techicality? That 100# number is arbitrary, random. It's not magic. Sick is sick, regardless of the actual number of pounds past a chart weight. Do you think surgery on a person who weighs 205 is "fair"? How about if she was scheduled to die within 3 months? She was 5 ft, so not technically "eligible" until more like 225. Ask yourself, would you want to spend the rest of your life "just" 80 or 85# over weight, but with all the comorbs as if you were just a teeny bit heavier? A person who is gaining just a few lbs to meet this random criteria may be just like the rest of us, trying to keep breathing.
   — vitalady

March 9, 2006
I have friends who worked the numbers to qualify. They saved their lives! None of us know all about someone elseses medical conditions and because of that I dont believe its anyones business but their own. They may well have realtives you never heard about who died young. Some dont admit to being diabetic.
   — bob-haller

March 9, 2006
If you are reporting your own weight gain to your doctor, fine. If you are concerned about your family member, you can only suggest. If the person is of age, it is not for you to judge their present staus. Each person does what they can do and when they want to. Taking care of someone elses business is not your business; a bit salty but true.
   — sor09

March 9, 2006
You should mind your own business just because you were "lucky" and had aBMI over 40 and qualified doesn't mean it makes any easier for someon who is maybe right around 37-38 to get the weight off. I will tell anyone that I did just that and I even told my surgeon post op becuae I had tried and failed so many times this surgery was my only hope. Why shouldn't someone so close be given the same opportunity that others have? Definitely keep your nose out of other people's business and let people live their lives. By teh way...how exactly is this hurting you and making an impact on your life in any way?
   — SteffieBear15

March 9, 2006
It seems that maybe I should have explained a little more in detail about what's going on. As far as the horrible responses I was given, I was asked to pose the question, so I did. As far as it not being someone else's business, I agree. However, because it is a difficult process to qualify for bariatric surgery, it seems to me (and the person who asked me to ask the question) that if people are doing outrageous things to gain the weight (she gained 150 lbs) to be eligible for surgery, they should be pointed out. Again, I agree with it being that person's decision, however, it is causing others who NEED the surgery for health reasons (like myself) to have to go unnecessary steps to weed out those playing games in order for their insurance to pay for their "cosmetic wants". I apologize if the question offended many, as I see it did, but I was asking for a friend.
   — SHANGFORD

March 9, 2006
150 pounds? most insurance requires being MO for 5 years. Did they have surgery? I know of people wearing heavy clothes, not standing up straight for height measure, that changes the BMI a lot, even a inch, rolls of quarters in the pocket but geez 150 pounds. Hope they dont get to their goal:( then find insurance says wait 5 years....
   — bob-haller

March 9, 2006
Someone who gains 150 to qualify for bariatric surgery either is lying about why they are gaining because they are out of control on their eating, or they are seriously touched in the head. If this person was a normal weight to begin with and wanted to have bariatric surgery for some bizarre reason, I'd say they have a psychological problem. As far as gaining 20 lbs to qualify, I would if I had to. I would not let a technicality keep me from pursuing the goal. And no, I do not agree with the first poster that this person will fail. That is not true. It only shows greater determination, IMO. No one knows who will succeed or fail in this. Thing is, you can shake your head at what someone is doing, but I wouldn't stick your nose into it. What you think you know and what you really know may be two different things. And once you stick your nose in, you can't pull it back out. Let's assume their saying they gained the weight for bariatric surgery was a ruse because they knew they were out of control and didn't want to seem so. You stick your nose into it and then they find out you stuck your nose into it because the doctor starts questioning them, and then you've lost a friend or made an enemy. And honestly, I don't think it would be easy to convince a doctor that a person packed on 150 lbs just to qualify for the surgery. That is going way beyond what would be needed...
   — Dinka Doo

March 9, 2006
I understand you being upset about someone doing this. But then again, it is not any of your business. I have a sister in law that had to gain 20 pounds to do the surgery. I was behind her 100 percent. She was heavy any-way, but needed the extra pounds. I stood by her all the way. Sometimes there are things that you got to do. I had the surgery 08/03, I was overweight, I did not need to gain any more weight to get the surgery, but if I had to I certainly would of. Thanks, Crystal
   — lippyblonde2000

March 9, 2006
You are obviously not talking about someone who is already obese and is trying to manipulate the sometimes unreasonable insurance 'qualifications' in order to have surgery. You are talking about someone who has a severe mental health issue. It would be extremely difficult for a normal weight person to gain 150# and they may not be able to do it, no matter how hard they try. That being said -- if this person is not your family or your friend -- it's not your business. Personally, I would try to develop a relationship with this person and first find out if it's true and then encourage them to seek help. Also, if you know their family you could 'gently' try to let them know that this is happening and that they should get her to psychiatrist (sp).
   — [Deactivated Member]

March 10, 2006
Because of my height, for many years, I was just shy of the magic BMI of 40. Even though I had 5 comorbidities, even though I faced all the problems every other fat person had, my insurance company told me I was 10-15 pounds under a 40 BMI and therfore not eligible for the surgical solution. I did the supervised diets, the drugs and everything else.... and everything I lost would eventully find it's way back. So finally, I wised up and bulked up for the last 15lbs. Know what? The insurance company approved me immediately. That was over 18 months ago, and I have lost and kept off 120 lbs. I have never felt better in the past 15 years. I'm lucky to know, that will be alive to raise my 2 boys. My point is this. every person goes through this journey by themselves. Each of us make decisions that affect our lives. I would never ask someone else to live by my decisions, and I don't think it is appropriate for you to make a decision for someone else. Quite frankly, this is truely none of your business, because you probably don't know everything there is to know.. My guess is that you have enough issues on your plate dealing with you. Try not to be concerned about what someone else is doing, as they have to live with the decisions they make.
   — Harry King

March 10, 2006
Ok let me get this straight....this person supposedly gained 150lbs. to qualify for bariatric surgery which is usually set at 40BMI or above. Hmmm... Something sounds way off here. 150lbs lighter would make this person normal weight so why would they want to gain weight for the surgery? If someone actually did this they have psychological problems that surgery on their stomach will not help. They are in need of a psychiatrist.
   — Suuz51

March 10, 2006
GAIN A FEW POUNDS, CURE DIABETES,APNEA,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, ARTHRITIS, IDB, SOUNDS RESONABLE TO ME, NOW HOW TO CURE A A$$ WITH OUT GOING TO JAIL IS TOUGHER.
   — walter A.

March 13, 2006
If a person needed to gain 150lbs. to qualify for surgery then they were obviously not obese to begin with-in fact since you must be 100 lbs.over your ideal weight to qualify ,it sounds like your "friend" was underweight. They may have an eating disorder and may think the WLS will keep them thin forever. Sad and definately not something I would run out and report someone for. It sounds like this person needs your support. They are wither lying about why they've gained weight because they are ashamed (like so amny of us) or they have serious emotional issues. They need understanding not judgement from you.Dannielle
   — D. Robertson




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